I have this dream regularly. I'm in the audience watching a movie. I'm also in the movie. I manage to keep this dual view point through the entire dream - don't ask me how. I've seen the movie before, at least I know more or less what's going to happen next. I can act in the dream and it will change what happens next. But, when I do that, after the action has altered the dream, I again know what will happen next.
Hooray for my psyche for "figuring this out". I can't think of a better way to experience multi-dimensional reality in three dimensions. For years I banged my head against how to sense probabilities. Then, after these dreams started I realized all I needed to do ways try and remember the future. It's been fun and instructive.
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Thursday, February 27, 2014
Privacy, Transparency, and Seth
I just finished reading David Eggers book "The Circle". It was an interesting, intriguing, and kind of creepy read. For those of you who haven't read it, it's in the mold of 1984 and Brave New World. In this case the totalitarian over-structure is Google-esk. In this future folks are connected to social media 24/7. Everybody knows everything. Eggers puts compelling arguments for the good of this in some of his character's mouths. I'm closing in on 60. I was raised in the "mind your own business" ethic. I found Eggers vision ghastly and repulsive as did most of the reviewers on Amazon.
Here's the kind of thing I've been thinking about for the last four years. Think about what Seth tells us about how the world works. Telepathy operates all the time. Motives are transparent. There are no true victims. Oddly, this is not far from Eggers vision, though in the Seth Material it's accomplished "organically" and much more thoroughly. I'm having a lovely life in part, I believe, because I discovered the Seth Material pretty early. When I stumble across something like this I realize how narrowly I've interpreted the Material and that helps explain how few of the possible effects of the Material I've experienced.
In a more Seth-like world would privacy disappear? Am I okay with that? If I'm really honest, my imagination of more Seth always involves other folks transparency while preserving my own privacy. I bet that's not the way it works.
I have a lot more questions than answers these days.
Cheers
Hello again. Hard to believe it's been four years since I wrote anything. Luckily, I didn't have any loyal followers to disappoint. Truthfully, I didn't exactly run out of things to say so much as realize that I wasn't really saying what I wanted to. Well, we're going to give it another try here.
Over the course of these four years I've come to realize that I really wasn't following the implications of the Seth Material very far. The further I followed the more surprising it got and the more respect I found for Seth's cleverness and patience. So, I'm reviving this blog to explore some of that out loud. Hope we all enjoy it.
Cheers
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
Persons
It's always useful to remember that Seth (joyfully) accepted the challenge of presenting his material in a particular time and place (late 20th century America) and through a particular set of circumstances (Jane and Rob). This "colors" the material. For instance, in late 20th century America any new idea, especially a weird one, needed to have some kind of scientific feel in order to be taken at all seriously. (This over-leaning towards science also provoked it's opposite twin, fundamentalism, but that's a whole different post).
In this post I'm thinking specifically about Seth's "consciousness units" (CU) and "electromagnetic energy units" (EEU). In a different, more animistic setting he might have described these as elemental persons (person = embodied desire). Neither of these is more or less true. They're just different in the same way that an idea can be presented in sculpture or painting or music. As persons, these elementals can be understood as enthusiastically following their desires to combine in rich and complex ways. In general, this view point makes the world a more personable place.
All that said, I have a confession. Many times over the years I've thought that I'd found a better way to express something Seth said. Invariably, as my understanding grew deeper, I've discovered that Seth was ahead of me and his expression was more fertile than mine. I've no reason to doubt that this is yet another of those cases.
In this post I'm thinking specifically about Seth's "consciousness units" (CU) and "electromagnetic energy units" (EEU). In a different, more animistic setting he might have described these as elemental persons (person = embodied desire). Neither of these is more or less true. They're just different in the same way that an idea can be presented in sculpture or painting or music. As persons, these elementals can be understood as enthusiastically following their desires to combine in rich and complex ways. In general, this view point makes the world a more personable place.
All that said, I have a confession. Many times over the years I've thought that I'd found a better way to express something Seth said. Invariably, as my understanding grew deeper, I've discovered that Seth was ahead of me and his expression was more fertile than mine. I've no reason to doubt that this is yet another of those cases.
Thursday, March 18, 2010
Dreaming
Early in my encounter with the Seth material I vaguely noticed that Seth talked a lot about dreams. A little later I noticed that Seth talked a lot about dreams and this made me impatient. "Yeah, yeah, dreams are interesting but I want to get on with the real business of controlling my day to day reality." Quite a while later I actually applied myself to remembering and understanding my dreams. This provided some interesting insights and was fun. Still later I got to the point where, occasionally, I would know I was dreaming while I was asleep. That was really fun, a sort of poor man's version of the Master Player control I thought the Seth material would give me in waking life. It's only been the last few years that I've finally understood what Seth was driving at. All of the above was really just preamble to the brass ring of realizing that I'm dreaming when I'm awake.
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
A Seth Master
Would you recognize a Seth Master if you met one? Would they be fabulously wealthy? Perfectly healthy? If they were a vet would they heal sick puppies by just passing their hands over them? This is a very interesting question and the answer reveals a lot about what we think Seth's ideas mean. To my knowledge, no one's taken a swing at this except Richard Bach in his novel Illusions.
When most of us first encounter "you create your reality" we think that, if we can just figure it out, we'll become what James Carse called a "Master Player" in his book, Finite and Infinite Games. It's the possibility of absolute control and absolute predictability. But, is that what YCYR promises? How would that work in a world where spontaneity always operates and time is basically meaningless? Would a Seth Master always be happy and problem free or is sadness, longing, anger and all the other staples of human life part of the good of the world?
This is a question well worth thinking about. After you get over the initial notion of absolute control watch what happens next. My guess is you'll end up at something like, "Well, of course I'll always have problems, just not these problems." Really? It's fascinating that we almost always think that our current problems aren't the best or appropriate problems for us to have.
I'm sure you get the drift of this by now. Happy cogitating!
When most of us first encounter "you create your reality" we think that, if we can just figure it out, we'll become what James Carse called a "Master Player" in his book, Finite and Infinite Games. It's the possibility of absolute control and absolute predictability. But, is that what YCYR promises? How would that work in a world where spontaneity always operates and time is basically meaningless? Would a Seth Master always be happy and problem free or is sadness, longing, anger and all the other staples of human life part of the good of the world?
This is a question well worth thinking about. After you get over the initial notion of absolute control watch what happens next. My guess is you'll end up at something like, "Well, of course I'll always have problems, just not these problems." Really? It's fascinating that we almost always think that our current problems aren't the best or appropriate problems for us to have.
I'm sure you get the drift of this by now. Happy cogitating!
Tuesday, March 9, 2010
Starting Over
Despite all evidence to the contrary, I know at least a couple of people have looked at this blog. Not that it has any mysterious Sethmagnetic properties. I shamelessly promoted it on the new Seth Network International (SNI). In response I got gracious emails from Linda and Michael at SNI. I responded to Linda, reiterating my pugnatious stance about experimenting with Seth's ideas. She wrote back and thought disagreed with me. As "luck" would have it, I was then away from the computer for several days which gave me time to reflect as opposed to blabbing back immediately.
I am a science guy and I did spend close to twenty years getting Seth and Science to fit somewhat comfortably together. But, I also use the science/empiricist approach to inoculate myself against true believers. It's probably a failing of mine that I'm very, very impatient with folks who won't pursue basic, hard questions. Nevertheless, my first posts were lazy. So, I'm starting over. Still, in some way it just doesn't seem fair to erase the earlier posts. They're also a record and deserve their time in the sun.
Here's the best I've got...
After the first blush of the Seth material wore off the question that haunted me most was, "Is it true?" For something like twenty-five years that seemed like a perfectly reasonable question. But, that question can't finally be answered from a science perspective. Any test that we might conduct can always go awry because our understanding is imperfect or because Seth's ideas are wrong. There's no way to tell the difference. Over the course of the last few years I've come to a very different understanding. It's not easy to explain but here goes. Let's ask a different question, "Is Impressionism true?" I think everyone can sense that there's something goofy about that question. I believe that the Seth material and Impressionism are frameworks for creativity. Christianity was a creative framework for Bach, European history for Shakespeare, and Science for Einstein. It goes deeper than that. The roles we choose in life - mother, father, ballerina, astronaut, blogger - these too, are creative frameworks. Creative frameworks aren't distinguished by relative truth or falsity. Einstein's science was no truer than Bach's Christianity or Shakespeare's history. The differences lie in the kinds of opportunities for creativity they offer.
Now to Linda's specific disagreement. She said she didn't think the Seth material could ever fail or that we could ever fail with it. Imagine I decide to paint an Impressionist portrait of my granddaughter. Can either I or Impressionism fail in that endeavor? Not exactly. That's the same kind of goofy question. Surely, just painting the picture is valuable (or value fulfillment). But, I can fail to take advantage of the creative opportunities that Impressionism gives me to express my love, to hint at the fleeting nature of one earth life, to somehow real-ize the light-made-flesh nature of my granddaughter. I'm not sure how to express it but some pictures turn out "better" than others. There are differences between artistic endeavors but there are probably more fertile ways to identify the poles of those differences than "success" and "failure".
Two final things. If you're lonely, poor, or sick I imagine this seems like so much hot air. In future posts I'll try to show how, in fact, this approach can help you change how you feel. Finally, "Thanks, Linda!" for the whack upside the head.
I am a science guy and I did spend close to twenty years getting Seth and Science to fit somewhat comfortably together. But, I also use the science/empiricist approach to inoculate myself against true believers. It's probably a failing of mine that I'm very, very impatient with folks who won't pursue basic, hard questions. Nevertheless, my first posts were lazy. So, I'm starting over. Still, in some way it just doesn't seem fair to erase the earlier posts. They're also a record and deserve their time in the sun.
Here's the best I've got...
After the first blush of the Seth material wore off the question that haunted me most was, "Is it true?" For something like twenty-five years that seemed like a perfectly reasonable question. But, that question can't finally be answered from a science perspective. Any test that we might conduct can always go awry because our understanding is imperfect or because Seth's ideas are wrong. There's no way to tell the difference. Over the course of the last few years I've come to a very different understanding. It's not easy to explain but here goes. Let's ask a different question, "Is Impressionism true?" I think everyone can sense that there's something goofy about that question. I believe that the Seth material and Impressionism are frameworks for creativity. Christianity was a creative framework for Bach, European history for Shakespeare, and Science for Einstein. It goes deeper than that. The roles we choose in life - mother, father, ballerina, astronaut, blogger - these too, are creative frameworks. Creative frameworks aren't distinguished by relative truth or falsity. Einstein's science was no truer than Bach's Christianity or Shakespeare's history. The differences lie in the kinds of opportunities for creativity they offer.
Now to Linda's specific disagreement. She said she didn't think the Seth material could ever fail or that we could ever fail with it. Imagine I decide to paint an Impressionist portrait of my granddaughter. Can either I or Impressionism fail in that endeavor? Not exactly. That's the same kind of goofy question. Surely, just painting the picture is valuable (or value fulfillment). But, I can fail to take advantage of the creative opportunities that Impressionism gives me to express my love, to hint at the fleeting nature of one earth life, to somehow real-ize the light-made-flesh nature of my granddaughter. I'm not sure how to express it but some pictures turn out "better" than others. There are differences between artistic endeavors but there are probably more fertile ways to identify the poles of those differences than "success" and "failure".
Two final things. If you're lonely, poor, or sick I imagine this seems like so much hot air. In future posts I'll try to show how, in fact, this approach can help you change how you feel. Finally, "Thanks, Linda!" for the whack upside the head.
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